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Streamer the saluki pursued by Poet the whippet. Streamer is half desert-bred saluki and half tazi from Kazakhstan. He’s a saluki by DNA and by common sense and maybe by the UKC.

Kazakh vs. all england


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We got a big snow last night. The dogs enjoyed frolicking in the aftermath.

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The boys

Poet (whippet) and Streamer (saluki/tazi) out mafficking about on a sunny November Afternoon.

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The Salukis


One week ago today, Jenna and I went to Pittsburgh to pick up some puppies at the airport. We found ourselves at some desolate warehouse place, but yes, they had our delivery from Albuquerque.

They loaded the shipping box into our van. Zoom, the old whippet, raised his head to watch the proceedings, and out of that crate rose of cacophony of primitive puppy barks.

The barker was the brindle named Streamer but called “Baz” at his breeder’s home. He had gone through enough moves and jostles, and to be face to face with that short-eared dog was the last straw.

Jenna quickly got both pups out of the crate. Streamer glowered at me from the passenger seat, but the other puppy, the cream and white Mango, stared up at me with abject suspicious. “You’re not gonna eat me, are you?” his eyes seemed to ask.

And I drove them home. Mango decided that I was his safety, and he began to follow me from room to room. Streamer, a hot-blooded Arabian stallion of a pup, decided to snap at the old whippet on the sofa, and he received a muzzle snap for his impudence..

Thus began my journey with an even more different sort of dog.  I should add that these are not normal AKC salukis, but they are a cross between a tazi with ancestors from Kazakhstan and Middle Eastern or “desert bred salukis.” Their sire is Tavi, a dog that has been featured on the Qurencia blog many times. Their mother is brindle and white, and thus controversial to the saluki purists. Both live with Shiri Hoshen in New Mexico, and this is the first litter produced between the two parents.

Mango is not ours. He will be going through a vaccine and titer regime over the next few months before he will be send to live with a good friend of this blog in Australia.

But right now, Mango is just learning about this foreign land, where the grass is green and spongy, and the rain drops from the sky regularly and make the air cool and crisp.

He is learning about wolf-like dogs with prick ears and intense eyes, and drop-eared almost Saluki-like things that carry things in their mouths. He will need much socialization to be made ready for that long trip Down Under.

But he has the softest, brownest eyes I’ve ever seen on a dog. He will be a great dog. I just hope to do him justice.


Streamer will be staying here, and I hope will be reformed into a nice high status dog.

/And so I will learn a new breed once again.







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Yes, my childhood golden retriever had the worst name ever given to the breed. Her AKC name was “Goldie Elizabeth Westfall.” I preferred the “Elizabeth” part of the name, but I didn’t decide on the breed, and in most of rural West Virginia at the time, the breed was virtually unknown, as rare as a West Siberian laika would be now.

When Anka arrived here, I didn’t care for her much. German shepherds were German shepherds to me, and the best I knew of them was they were surly, barky things that glowered and slobbered when I passed their fenced backyards in the neighborhood.

Her last owner had no real idea what she was. He’d had Labradors before, and they weren’t jumping out of open windows to follow him off to work each morning. Somewhere along the line, she’d picked up the name “Precious,” and when Jenna asked what her name was, he was a little embarrassed to admit her backyard breeder nom de guerre.

She looked vaguely like a Czech German shepherd, so I told Jenna we should call her a Czech/German name, I wanted to make sure she had one that was not also possessed by member of the Trump family, and yes, “Ivanka” and “Anka” are kind of similar.

But not similar enough for me. I have been holding back various Germanic and Slavic names for dogs, none of which would ever fit a golden retriever.

But they certain do fit a German shepherd of Central European blood.

That’s how I see it, at least.

Before Anka appeared on the scene, we had planned to get a desert-bred saluki, and when I found out the sire of this pup was going to be one of those Central Asian saluki things, I thought I might like the dog more.

I proposed the Russian name “Lev,” which means “Lion,” but the breeder, who has studied Hebrew, also pointed out that the name means heart in that language.

But now, I’m backing off the sighthounds a bit to focus on my German shepherd, and my partner is now proposing names for the dog.

We do not have the same naming strategy for dogs. I don’t give a flying fig about flashy AKC names. I like names that fit the dog’s heritage and breed, and as it stands right now, I have an extensive list of Anglo-Saxon and Scottish names for golden retrievers. I also have a list of Germanic and Slavic names for any dogs of Central European ancestry that I might own, and until I found I liked German shepherds, these were going to be used for any continental HPRs I wound up with.

My names are stronger and more guttural. They have sharp edges to them, and they spume like the waves in the North Sea.

None of those names would ever fit a sighthound completely.

And I don’t think my personality and their general temperament fit very well.

I like a dog that I can train. They are meant to think on their feet, while on the run, whereas a German shepherd or a golden retriever’s whole existence is to find way to seek your favor.

I look now at my toned sable working GSD, and I marvel at how I lucked into this animal. She certainly is precious, for she has changed my mind in ways that very few people ever could. I used to avoid the Germans shepherd dog, simply because I had bad associations with poorly bred and poorly kept ones in West Virginia.

Now, I think they are pretty awesome animals.

I look this 64-pound machine of canine flesh that is so perfectly balanced by what I can only call intellect and realize that I was wrong all this time.

The new dog will be something else. They are more primitive and primal than gentlemanly snobs that are show-bred whippets. And it will not be the dog that looks in my eyes with rapt adoration, just asking for me to do something outside.

And no, I don’t have the skills to name a sighthound properly.  I don’t have the flowing names in my war chest of dog names.

But in the end, the dogs don’t care what they are called.

It is only our species that fights over words and language and attaches profound concepts and meaning to what are nothing more than the exquisite chattering of big-brained monkeys.

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Several books came back with me from Florida. Among them is this book edited by Gail Goodman:


Better photo of the cover and title:


Because I have such an eclectic interest in dogs and breed history, I’ve been told by more than a few people that I need to read this book.

So I have it now, loaned to me by Jenna Coleman. I think this will be an interesting expansion of the book I recently read by Stephen Bodio about the tazis, the Central Asian “salukioid” dogs.




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Jess posted this painting and several others that depict Afghan hound/saluki-type dogs in northern India during the eighteenth century.

This particular one caught my attention because it shows feathered saluki-type dogs and patterned Afghan hound-type dogs baying up a tiger.

Before you aski, the tiger is not life size.

This particular scene was painted by Pandit Nainsukh, who was given special access to the Raja Balwant Dev Singh.

The Raja was one of the Jasrotia rajputs, and this particular tiger hunt took place in Jarota, their capital on the Ujjh River in northern India, which is not very far from Kashmir, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

This painting shows that the Afghan hound phenotype was not restricted solely to Afghanistan or adjacent regions in Pakistan. It was also found in India, and appparently, it existed within a landrace that included saluki-type dogs.

Salukis and Afghan hounds are regarded as separate breeds in the West, but for most of their history, they were varieties of a landrace that ranged throughout Central Asia to India  and west across the Middle East into North Africa. This type of sighthound also included smooth-coated dogs, which do exist in salukis and in Afghan hounds.

The differences between these breeds and their close relatives have largely been contrived by the Western fancy.

Historically, they were not kept separate from each other.   The idea that they would be is something that happened only when they became part of the Western dog fancy.

This is one of the oldest landraces still in existence. However, the lineages that produced the current dogs aren’t necessarily that old.

They have just remained outside of the Western dog gene pool, which has become contracted through breed formation, and this makes them look more ancient than actually are they are when their DNA is assayed.

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