Canis lupus hominis

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1. on August 10, 2011 at 5:52 pm retrieverman

   The description throws out both rottweilers and dobermans.

   
   
   • on August 10, 2011 at 10:42 pm EmilyS

     and Gordon setters…

     In the Staff. bull terrier standard, “Black-and-tan or liver color to be disqualified” but it’s only “not to be encouraged” in the AmStaff’s .. Not mentioned in the UKC standard for the APBT. B/T (or more properly tan points, as it doesn’t always show up as BLACK and tan) appears in all three of these breeds.

     But no one would ever identify any of the bullbreeds in that puppy!
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2. on August 10, 2011 at 6:29 pm Jess

   Labrador/Golden retriever.

   
   
   • on August 10, 2011 at 9:06 pm Dave

     Obviously a Pug-Afghan cross.

     
     
     • on August 11, 2011 at 5:32 pm Jess

       Bite your tongue for even thinking of such an abomination.

       
       
3. on August 11, 2011 at 12:48 am Paula G From Indiana

   Black and Tan is acceptable in the English Bull Terrier, I presently own my first tri-color. So from the description it definitely isn’t an EBT either!

   
   
4. on August 11, 2011 at 1:43 am Sarah Adams

   Lab and something. Though if the other breed never has black & tan, I think there had to be a cheater in there somewhere. I suppose unless the breed has some coloration that suppresses the expression of the pattern.

   
   
5. on August 11, 2011 at 6:57 am Jen

   I’ll say Lab/Golden as well. We have some B/T crosses (that we bred on site) at the service dog school I work at. It’s pretty fascinating.

   
   
6. on August 11, 2011 at 9:02 am Ruth

   Isn’t there a line of poodles that is black/tan but that isn’t allowed in the show ring?

   
   
7. on August 11, 2011 at 11:31 am M.R.S.

   One of the parents could be either Labrador or Golden Retriever; either can carry the gene for tan-pattern. But not both parents, since neither Standard even mentions tan markings.

   
   
8. on August 11, 2011 at 12:59 pm Suhail

   Labrador and Golden.

   
   
9. on August 12, 2011 at 8:29 am pitbullpony

   I like Labrador and Golden

   I’ve seen the photos of the b/t labs; and since goldens “only” come in golden; would they not lack the black to express b/t; so they could hide it?

   
   
   • on August 12, 2011 at 11:20 am M.R.S.

     Yes, sort of:– some Goldens carry the factor for tan-marking, but because their ee factors prevent the expression of black pigment in the coat, any tan-markings can’t be distinguished because everything is yellow-red (“tan”). Nearly all Goldens carry B (for black pigment), a very few are bb (for liver). If crossed with a dog carrying E, the black will be expressed, hence the large percentage of Golden crosses that are black (or black-and-tan).

     
     
10. on August 13, 2011 at 10:19 am yesbabunni

    Its Golden Ret vs Lab Retr as black and tan coloring is a fault in a Labrador Retriever due to a modifier gene normally present.

    
    
11. on August 13, 2011 at 6:00 pm pennypup

    Labrador x Newfie? =D

    
    
12. on August 15, 2011 at 5:41 pm Jessica B

    Cute x Cuddly LOL

    
    
13. on September 10, 2012 at 7:44 pm Trista

    I would say she looks an awful lot like our puppy which is an american black and tan coonhound and rottweiler. I don’t see Lab or Golden retriever in her though.

    
    
    • on September 10, 2012 at 7:51 pm retrieverman

      It’s a rangier strain of golden retriever, which is dominant over the Lab’s blockiness, and the black and tan exists in goldens and Labs but it’s normally masked in goldens through their unusual color gene.

      
      

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