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What’s wrong with a dog like this?

This dog isn’t a working dog. He’s a pet.

But he does retrieve with a rather stong intensity:

He’s what used to be average, pet quality for a golden. I could get a dog like this out of the newspaper.

With some work, he’d be a find working dog, although probably not a top trial contender.

In most parts of the US and nearly all parts of Europe, finding a good goldens is a bit like looking for a rare breed. In fact, you’d probably be better off looking for flat-coats or trial quality Labs, because the quality of these dogs are a bit better able to ensure.

A dog like this one could be trained and molded into a decent working dog. All I look for in a pup is relatively strong retrieving instinct. If I have that, I can work with it. (I’m much more concerned about genetic disorders and the conformation of the parents. I don’t want to get a blond Newfoundland.)

A dog like this one wouldn’t last five minutes in a dog show. He’d just be a point dog for some flowing coated, blocky “beauty” to beat.

This dog is probably a bit too much for the average pet owner, but he’s not entirely unsuitable as a pet. Provided, of course, that he receives exercise.

It’s very likely that he’s just a pet-line dog, whose ancestors aren’t that far removed working dogs. Where I live, most pet-line dogs are of this type.

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white golden retriever wikipedia

I often get comment that there is such a thing as a “white golden retriever.”

I hate to explain this again, but sometimes, it’s worth repeating.

All golden retrievers are recessive e/e (yellow to red) for their coat color. All of them. No one has found a dog that carries the white masking gene, which is found in bull terriers and boxers. No one.

Even these dogs that appear to be white are not white in terms of genetics.

And there is an easy way to test this: get the dog wet. Usually, one of these dogs gets wet, it will have a yellow tinge to its coat.

These people who are selling “rare white goldens” are con artists or ignorant of the actual genes involved. There is no such breed as a “British white retriever.” It is actually the European show-line golden that is very pale in color.

Again, my next question is why do you want a dog like this?

Is it because of the novelty of color?

Is it because the breeders tell you the dogs are calm and mellow?

Is it because Oprah has a couple?

It might surprise you to know how recently this color variety developed. I’ve looked at paintings and photographs of hundreds of early goldens. None of them are of this color. None. The much peddled myth that the first Guisachan dogs were of this color doesn’t hold much weight when there are actually paintings of the first litter. They were light gold, not cream. And the 1st Baron Tweedmouth bred in setters to darken the color.

I can explain this 100 or 200 or 50,000 times, and I still have explain the genetics of the color.  Also, because there is recessive nature to the light color gene, if you breed for light color, you cannot breed dark colored dogs from light colored parents. That’s why in Europe, dark colors very quickly got bred out of the lines.

Again, I’ll it ONE more time (although I’m kidding myself, I’ll say it again) there is no such thing as a white golden retriever. All we are doing in breeding for the light color in some golden retriever and the mahogany in Irish setters is messing around with the intensity of the yellow to red color. It’s the same color genetically, e/e.

Interesting, “white” German shepherds don’t exist either for the same reason. And West Highland white terriers are of the same color. It’s a very diluted e/e coloration. (Although in these breeds, it’s impossible to see the yellow color.) Check out this study on the cream color. And check out this page on “white” color.

Interestingly, all the supposed white e/e’s have close relatives that come in the more traditonal yellow or red colors for the gene. Westies are close relatives of the Cairn terrier, which does come in a goldish yellow color. American “Eskimo” dogs (American version of the white German spitz) and Samoyeds also come from dogs that can come in the reddish or yellow color. (See the coloration of some reindeer herding spitzes or the typical coloration of a Pomeranian. Some Samoyeds are creamy colored–“biscuits.”) I knew a gold-colored purebred German shepherd.  These white dogs are actually very diluted yellows.

But they are not white in the same way that bull terriers or white boxers are white.

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What I will not discuss on this blog

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Some issues about dogs are just too contentious for me to discuss on this blog. There are two that I’m not going to touch with a ten foot pole.

1. Training methods.

I have my own opinions on which methods work best to train dogs. You probably have your own. Whatever I write about my views on dog training is not going to change your mind, because we both have a system that works for us. Why should we have this discussion anyway?

2. What you should feed a dog.

Same reasons. And in feeding dogs these days, we have so many different warring camps that I’m pretty sure a discussion of dog nutrition is going to launch some people. I have little interest in listening to these various polemics about dog food. If it works for you, continue using it. That’s my advice on dog food.

Those two issues right there start more fights among dog people than anything else. And I think we should be devoting more of our energies to making dog conformation and breeding practices better.

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Watch the German Shepherd Deteriorate Before Your Very Eyes

From the user MandyLionWWIII, who is very concerned about breeding dogs for healthy conformations.

See what happened to the golden retriever here.

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A long philosophical essay on why I prefer dogs to cats.

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The Article.

For your enjoyment, some videos with that feature a golden retriever and some cats.

From the youtube user comadano

And another, with a dog more of my type:

From the youtube user wintergray.

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Petition on Breed Specific Legislation

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The petition is here.

Why do I oppose breed specific legislation?

Pit bulls are the breed most often targeted. Pit bulls are not a breed. They are a type. Various dogs look like pit bulls, so al sorts of dogs can be deemed dangerous, even if they are nice Lab mixes. The Pit bull classification is a nebulous term.

Some lines of Pit Bull are very aggressive, game bred animals.  Most lines aren’t of this type. However, it’s very possible to buy a nice “American stafforshire terrier,” and maybe get a dog that bites someone. That does not mean that we need breed specific legislation.

Even if pit bulls are banned, there are dozens of other breeds that are bigger and even more likely to be aggressive than pit bulls or any of the other breeds usually mentioned in these laws. There are all sorts of fighting dogs from the developing world that could be imported as replacements for pit bulls.

Further, there are too many nice pit bulls around and too many nasty golden retreivers. Our idea about which dog is super-aggressive is really a matter of culture. Goldens might be a top biting breed now, but I’ve never heard of anyone wanting to ban them.

Finaly, if pit bulls or any other breed is banned, the owners will simply go underground. The dogs won’t get the vet care they need. In Ontario, where there is a total ban on bull and terrier breeds, the dogs still live there, but the law is haphazardly enforced. This means that there are lots of dogs living in the shadows. Do we really want dogs living in the shadows?

We do need laws to stop super-aggressive dogs. However, I’ve seen super aggression in Labs, and that breed is deemed the all-American family pet (even though it’s a Canadian-British breed.) We need laws that regulate bad dog behavior and irresponsible ownership.

Breed specific legislaton is a good thing for politicians to run on. Every pit bull attack is sensationalized, almost as badly as every missing white girl. But as a sound policy, it must be opposed. We have to think about the real unintended consequences of such a policy.

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The Golden retriever: STILL in the Top Ten of Dog Breeds for 2008

Still the fourth most popular dog in AKC registrations.

Still the fourth most popular dog in AKC registrations.

Popularity isn’t always such a good thing.

 Golden retrievers remain in the top ten of AKC registrations, but these high numbers could actually wind up hurting them.

Mass production of dog breeds isn’t that good for their health, their temperaments, and working abilities. After all, to produce that many dogs, you have to breed dogs that are, well, “crap.” These are dogs with genetic disorders, temperament issues, and very poor working conformation.

For the sake of the golden retriever, I hope its popularity drops, so that it can have some rehabilitation time with people who know what they’re doing.

The golden retriever is in the same position the curly-coated retriever was in one hundred years ago. The  curly-coat is a rare breed today, but in the mid-nineteenth century, it was the dominant retriever. As it developed into a show dog, it was bred bigger and coarser. Attention was paid to only two characteristics: the tightly curled coat and black coat color. (Liver was an accepted color, but livers almost never did well at shows). It was also the first retriever bred to be gigantic. It was a popular show dog and family pet, but mass production soon began to take its toll.

 Temperament began to suffer. Then the breed developed an almost universal reputation for hard mouth, a sin of all sins in retrieverdom.

By the early twentieth century, the curly was ruined as a working dog.

Today, the breed hasn’t recovered entirely from its degeneration by the fancy. It is now a tall, lightly built retriever. However, I’ve never seen one in person. I’ve heard that they have a much nicer temperament and are very rarely hard mouth retrievers. However, this breed will never return to its former glory as a top working retriever, and I’m sure its deepest admirers hope it stays that way.

If golden breeders aren’t careful, the golden will go the same way as the curly.  If this breed develops a reputation for aggression, its numbers will drop. However, this reputation hasn’t been widespread. I suppose no one wants to talk about these aggression statistics. If pit bulls suddenly started biting more people, we would hear it on every news channel. (There are some lines of pit bull that are naturally quite aggressive. There are many more that have really nice dogs in them. )

You won’t hear many golden retriever lovers say this, but I hope the golden’s popularity drops just a little bit.

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