Dogs have much smaller skulls in proportion to body size than northern wolves do. This wolf is likely from one of the big game hunting wolves that lives in Alaska or Canada.
This wolf likely weighed around a hundred pounds, which is about average for one of the large northern wolves, but this mastiff was probably at least 120 pounds.
Both animals have evolved to grapple with large animals in close combat, but their skulls are still quit different. Indeed, the Neo’s skull looks more like that of a bear or lion than that of a wolf, yet we know that Neapolitan mastiffs and northern wolves belong to the same species.
Because the two animals have had similar selection pressures for strong bites, one would think that the skulls would be very similar. They aren’t.
The northern wolves evolved from generalist southern wolves that specialize din hunting large ungulates.
Neapolitan mastiffs, like all European mastiffs, are derived from Middle Eastern wolves, which have retained the ancient southern wolf phenotype. Most modern dogs are essentially modified Middle Eastern wolves, representing the subspecies arabs and pallipes.
Not only are the bulk of dogs derived from smaller wolves, small size was one of the first traits that humans bred for in domestic dogs. Small size is actually quite a common trait in domestic dogs throughout the world and has been for a long time. It is very likely that these mastiffs were at least partially derived from much smaller ancestors that were in no way adapted to fighting large animals or people.
So Neapolitan mastiff’s skull and size are built upon the relatively smaller size of its ancestors. They have left an historical legacy of those features, and upon that legacy, its phenotype been built.
This evolution likely took several hundred years, and Neapolitan mastiffs likely crossbred with other Italian dogs that didn’t have these features following Rome’s defeat. Then this breed became “improved” for the show ring after the Second World War, and whatever features it had were greatly exaggerated by selective breeding. Although these dogs had to fight as part of their work, they did not have to fight every time it wanted to eat.
These northern wolves likely began evolving their phenotype hundreds of thousands of years ago. Their ancestors specialized in hunting large ungulates, and every time those wolves wanted to eat, they had to grapple with game that was both large and dangerous. Over time, those selection pressures would lead to wolves with very large heads and teeth and very powerful bites.
So on the surface, it would appear that a gladiator dog would have the same skull and power as a wolf that has to fight moose on a regular basis, the reality is that the Neapolitan mastiffs have not evolved anything like a wolf’s skull. It may be more powerful than the average domestic dog, but the northern wolf will still have the upper hand.
A northern wolf evolved to live in a much more intense environment than Rome’s gladiatorial circuses. And there is not a lot of good evidence that suggests that the Neopolitian mastiff is actually the same strain that the Romans used. The type may be old, but the strain most likely has very different genetics now. I’ve never seen any genetic study that finds this breed to be ancient, though the signatures of antiquity in its DNA could have been lost through regular crossbreeding after the fall of Rome.
We do know that much of the Neapolitan mastiff’s features have been exaggerated since it became a show dog, but the wolf can vary only so much in head structure before it becomes unable to take down a moose effectively.
So although it appears that Neapolitan mastiffs might be closer to wolves in their fighting abilities and phenotype, the two animals are quite different.
And if the two should ever get into a fight, my money would be on the northern wolf. I don’t know of any dogs that could be a northern wolf by itself. Maybe the only exception I can think of is if an Irish wolfhound caught the wolf on the run and killed it before it could stand and fight.
The only disadvantage the wolf would have in any encounter is its much thinner skin, and if the wolfhound got the wolf by the throat before it could engage in combat, it might be able to inflict mortal wounds.
But those are big ifs.









An anatolian shepherd would have a much better chance against a wolf than one of today’s Irish wolfhounds would.
http://www.cobankopegi.com/collar.html
Here’s a really cool site about the different body styles of anatolian shepherds in different regions of Turkey. They’re definitely one of the most badass dog breeds still around. :)
Kate
http://www.anatoliandog.org/isik-001.htm
The woolf’s teeth fit together in a perfect scissors bite – very effective for pulling and tearing. The Mastiff would have to rely on the immense mendibular muscles – look at the bone surface for those muscles to attach – and would be more likely to crush their prey.
Strength matters alot, that’s why tiger cannot take down a grizzly bear despite of superior speed and canine! The average male wolf, at 90-100 lbs, will have the hardest time taking down a conditioned and trained big dog like spanish mastiff (use for war and against lion/bear), dogo argentino (used for fighting mountain lion), bandoggo mastiff and bully kutta (a huge version of fighting pitbull), tosa inu (breed for war and fighting), ovtchartka and kangal (huge sheperd dogs even used to guard against cheeta & leopard), all can weight in the range of 140-200 lbs, and trained to bite and not let go, to have extremely high pain tolerance, to skillfully attack at all cost, and to do or die. Wolves kill preys that are smaller/ weaker than them, or big animals that don’t fight back much. Wolves don’t usually engage in long deadly fight against each other (They don’t have that instinct because they don’t want to risk injury and starvation from not being able to hunt after that). In a one on one do-or-die situation, expect the wolf to fight to get away, and the trained big dog to fight to win. The latter, with additional weight advantage, will be the favorite to walk out soaking in blood and pride.
Actually, Amur (“Siberian”) tigers attack fully grown Ussuri brown bears, which are bigger than grizzly bears and approach the size of Kodiak brown bears.
But your basic point is correct.
Accounts of Amur tigers killing large brown bears can be found in John Vaillant’s The Tiger.
I have owned several mastiff and molossor dogs. They they all caught and killed coyotes, as well as deer on a regular basis.Wolves and cougars steer clears of them, in fact it is one reason we keep them. The mastiff dogs do indeed tend to crush their opponents heads or necks. When they stalk they look very much like lions, as opposed to wolves or coyotes hunting. They also work in packs frightfully well.
Molossers are something that hasn’t happened with natural selection since we had the Borophaginae– a dog that has that sort of power.
It is commonly said that wolves have a stronger jaw pressure than dogs but I don’t think we’ve adequately tested the rougher, working mastiff-type dogs in any of those studies.
Canadian wolves are not afraid of taking on mastiffs.
had a tibetan that ripped the left front paw off a wolf. wolf bled to death