I’ll answer this tomorrow, so get your guesses in.I still have one of these queries out, which will be answered as early as tonight.
There are two names for this dog, but I’d like the one that more closely refers to what it looks like.
These dogs are usually golden sable from what I’m gathering, but if one ignores the sabling, this one looks like a prick-eared golden retriever:
This one appears to be a true gold:
As does this one:
The also come with bears and drop ears:
Yes. These are all the same breed.
I know, I know! Only because you sent me that study, though, so I will remain quiet.
Looks kind of like a Dutch Shepherd but the color is wrong for that breed so I would venture that its a Belgian Shepherd, aka Malinois.
Fuchs altdeucher (fox old german herding dog). http://www.a-a-h.de/?id=10
I wish someone would DNA study these dogs to see how related they were to the other European breeds (other than the GSD).
Since Peggy mentioned a German breed, this reminded me that Scottie you have not reviewed Susan Orlean’s Rin Tin Tin yet.
That’s because I haven’t red it yet :).
It’s a Harzer Fuchs. Easy! Give us a hard one!
I think the red dog is a Basque Shepherd dog or a Euskal Artzain
Txakurra. Of the distinct type of the Euskal….the Gorbeika (Gorbeiakoa o del Gorbea is the more pure & ancient).
I see your other commentators are as informed as I — Altdeutscher Fuchs. I didn’t realize they came with that light “harness mark” over the back that one sees in the GSD as well though.
Looks like another good candidate for out-crossing to working GSDs.
Sorry I haven’t replied before — I didn’t receive the notification (the system just doesn’t seem to work for me) and I’ve been away, besides.
In re: out-crossing, I’d say definitely. The various Altdeutsche Huetehunde are the ancestral root stock of the GSD, after all, and the GSD is such a “young” breed that there’s no exact genetics that one might wish to conserve. At barely 100 years of age it’s all “phenotype”. Heh. And before anyone accuses me of not valuing the GSD, I do, very much. It’s my chosen companion animal, and working partner. I have no fears of what introducing Altdeutscher, or Belgian shepherd, or Dutch shepherd, or Berger Picard, or Beauceron, etc. would do to “my” breed. Provided the outcrossing was done with care to preserve the desired behavioural and physical characteristics, I’d be delighted to own and work such dogs.
From the point of view of those interested in the Altdeutsche Huetehunde, however, using them purely to outcross to other breeds is not a good thing. The various landraces should also be used as they always have been, breeding “good dog” to “good dog” with no thought for pedigree or dog fancy.
Whatever dog breed, they look awesome.
They bear a strong resemblance to early photos of Tervurens I have seen.
The red-gold ones remind me of the Perro pastor garafiano, a herding breed from the Spanish Canary Islands.