• Home
  • About
  • Contact
  • Patreon
  • Premium Membership
  • Services

Natural History

by Scottie Westfall

Feeds:
« Dear President-Elect Obama, Please Pick a Rescued Labradoodle
I’ve come to the conclusion… »

Cute “white” puppies and the coarse, lazy dogs they mature into

January 20, 2009 by SWestfall3

They start out as cute little “white” puppies:

cute-white-retriver1

Unlike field bred golden puppies, they aren’t nearly as active or obsessively intelligent and driven. The first dog I had of this type I actually thought there was something medically wrong with puppy, because she never wanted to play or get silly. Most consumers of dogs don’t really want the real drivey temperament in a puppy, so that puppy doesn’t cause that much trouble (at least by comparison).

Then they mature into dogs that run like draft horses. Have you ever ridden a draft horse? They may have once carried knights in full armor, but compared to a saddle horse, they are lump and choppy in their gait. You get the same out of a blocky English goldens. (Here’s an example of coarse English goldens running with that choppy, lumbering gait.)

Compare the gait of these dogs with some working bred dogs.

Here’s a video of “Shuttle” (The dog in the header). She moves very quickly and fluidly. I don’t see any lumbering around with this dog.

Now, you might like a cute dog that lumbers around. You aren’t going bird hunting, and you don’t want to work a dog. Well, I have a simple statement: Don’t get a golden retriever and stop accommodating breeders who are breeding in poor working conformation and mellow temperaments in the dogs. If you can’t handle the working temperament, you need another breed.

I hate to be blunt here, but I’m tired of seeing my breed destroyed by the caprices of a fickle public, one that wants a mass-produced animal that is not only good- natured and very trainable but also “white,” bear-like, and calm. To get those other three characteristics, you have to fundamentally change the other two.  And people who like retrievers as retrievers and not playthings do not want those  first two characteristics to change.

Further, a lot of these “white” dogs develop food possession for some reason. The one thing this breed always had going for it was its incredible temperament. It might have a relatively high cancer rate. It might not be as good a trial dog as a Labrador. But its gentle temperament was its asset. If that goes, this breed deserves to lose its popularity.

I hope it does. And I say this as someone who is absolutely in love with the golden retriever as a retriever and dog.

*I have yet to be challenged by any “white” golden fans out there. I’ll just tell you this– I don’t have any good scientific studies on the two separate lines of golden and their behavior and health. However, it’s been my experience dealing with this breed most of my life.

Posted in Uncategorized | Tagged "white" golden retriever, English golden retriever, golden retriever, working retriever conformation | 2 Comments

2 Responses

  1. on June 3, 2009 at 5:43 pm Lisa Newton

    What kind of challenge are you looking for? Perhaps I am making assumptions as to what you intend by “white golden” but can tell you I have a young, beautiful, rather “English” looking “white” golden that is a maniac in the field. Focused, birdy, excellent marker, good work ethic. True, I got her for show, but one day while at practice with my other “field golden” my trainer suggested we “try her out” and all our jaws dropped. I am a very novice handler having just put my first JH title on another golden, but I can assure you this little gal is going to grow into an excellent hunter. I have the privilege of knowing Shuttle, and I am a big fan of dark gold dogs, having had two in the past that I loved dearly (unfortunately before I got into the field at all).

    Personally, I am striving for a golden that is both true to the standard and has the smarts to perform the work. I am dismayed with the AKC breed ring as the judges clearly are looking for fluffy teddy bear types with blown-out straight coats, and very few appreciate that they are a hunting dog, lacking appreciation for fitness, soundness, and balance. Shame.

    Anyway, it will certainly be interesting to see what develops as this young girl grows. Would be happy to keep you posted. I will be shocked if she gets uninterested in working in any way, but most of all, I hope her health will be such that it allows her to do the work. That, I suppose, remains to be seen when we get clearances. I wish I knew how to attach a photo.


    • on June 3, 2009 at 5:52 pm retrieverman

      I’ve met only a handful of “white” goldens that acted anything like a “normal” American field-type golden retriever. To use my grandfather’s term, “they lack ambition.”

      I have a light gold golden retriever from partial British extraction. However, she’s nothing like my old field-line dogs that would retrieve and run with all the endurance and brains of any border collie.

      The light colored Newfoundland-type are a bastardization of what was once a universally useful working retriever.



Comments are closed.

  • Like on Facebook

    The Retriever, Dog, and Wildlife Blog

    Promote Your Page Too
  • Blog Stats

    • 9,757,214 hits
  • Retrieverman’s Twitter

    • one person unfollowed me // automatically checked by fllwrs.com 2 weeks ago
    • @TetZoo Cougars/Puma/Mountain Lions have kittens, as do cheetahs because they are not Pantherines. 2 weeks ago
    • @SergioStalino Message me. I got lots of tips on catching and cooking. 2 weeks ago
    • @SergioStalino What kind of reel? 2 weeks ago
    • one person followed me // automatically checked by fllwrs.com 1 month ago
  • Google rank

    Check Google Page Rank
  • Archives

    • September 2020
    • August 2020
    • July 2020
    • June 2020
    • May 2020
    • April 2020
    • February 2020
    • January 2020
    • December 2019
    • November 2019
    • October 2019
    • September 2019
    • August 2019
    • July 2019
    • June 2019
    • May 2019
    • April 2019
    • March 2019
    • February 2019
    • January 2019
    • December 2018
    • November 2018
    • October 2018
    • September 2018
    • August 2018
    • July 2018
    • June 2018
    • May 2018
    • April 2018
    • March 2018
    • February 2018
    • January 2018
    • December 2017
    • November 2017
    • October 2017
    • September 2017
    • August 2017
    • July 2017
    • June 2017
    • May 2017
    • April 2017
    • March 2017
    • February 2017
    • January 2017
    • December 2016
    • November 2016
    • October 2016
    • September 2016
    • August 2016
    • July 2016
    • June 2016
    • May 2016
    • April 2016
    • March 2016
    • February 2016
    • January 2016
    • December 2015
    • November 2015
    • October 2015
    • September 2015
    • August 2015
    • July 2015
    • June 2015
    • May 2015
    • April 2015
    • March 2015
    • February 2015
    • January 2015
    • December 2014
    • November 2014
    • October 2014
    • September 2014
    • August 2014
    • July 2014
    • June 2014
    • May 2014
    • April 2014
    • March 2014
    • February 2014
    • January 2014
    • December 2013
    • November 2013
    • October 2013
    • September 2013
    • August 2013
    • July 2013
    • June 2013
    • May 2013
    • April 2013
    • March 2013
    • February 2013
    • January 2013
    • December 2012
    • November 2012
    • October 2012
    • September 2012
    • August 2012
    • July 2012
    • June 2012
    • May 2012
    • April 2012
    • March 2012
    • February 2012
    • January 2012
    • December 2011
    • November 2011
    • October 2011
    • September 2011
    • August 2011
    • July 2011
    • June 2011
    • May 2011
    • April 2011
    • March 2011
    • February 2011
    • January 2011
    • December 2010
    • November 2010
    • October 2010
    • September 2010
    • August 2010
    • July 2010
    • June 2010
    • May 2010
    • April 2010
    • March 2010
    • February 2010
    • January 2010
    • December 2009
    • November 2009
    • October 2009
    • September 2009
    • August 2009
    • July 2009
    • June 2009
    • May 2009
    • April 2009
    • March 2009
    • February 2009
    • January 2009
    • December 2008
    • November 2008
    • October 2008
    • September 2008
    • August 2008
    • July 2008
  • Recent Comments

    The Evolving Natural… on So does the maned wolf break t…
    SWestfall3 on So does the maned wolf break t…
    Ole Possum on So does the maned wolf break t…
    kuymal on The Thylacine was more a marsu…
    Kerry Rogers on The Thylacine was more a marsu…
  • Meta

    • WordPress.com
  • Pages

    • About
    • Contact
    • Patreon
    • Premium Membership
    • Services
  • Subscribe to Retrieverman's Weblog by Email
  • Revolver map

    Map

  • Top Posts

    • Bulldog goat
  • SiteCounter


  • Donate to this blog

  • Top 50 Northwest Dog Blogs

    top 50 dog blogs

Blog at WordPress.com.

WPThemes.


 

Loading Comments...
 

    %d bloggers like this: