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“The Beast of Gum Hill”- yet another bigfoot hoax

April 11, 2009 by retrieverman

Let me see–

You run an ATV at full speed and full throttle up a creek, and the “bigfoot” just wanders off?

And the cameraman is perfectly poised to film it. Indeed, it’s almost as if the ATV rider is “pointing” the bigfoot, just like a pointer or setter.

One word: Hoax!

BTW, this was in Southwest Virginia. That’s not the same place as Southern West Virginia, although the two regions are adjacent to each other and have a common history.

Update:  Because MORONS have decided to come on this post and call me a Republican, a Nazi, and everything else. Comments for this post are closed. If you believe in bigfoot, you are living in fantasy land. Go shoot unicorns and leave me alone! You people wouldn’t know your ass from a hole in the ground, and you probably need to seek the assistance of mental health professionals.

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  1. on January 2, 2011 at 8:38 pm Mark

    Do you have proof that it was a hoax??


    • on January 2, 2011 at 11:53 pm retrieverman

      Proving that this thing was a hoax is a bit difficult.

      I can’t say that it was.

      However, science gives us some things to help us– the principle of parsimony: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsimony

      The simplest explanation is that this is a hoax. The whole thing looks horribly staged.


  2. on March 24, 2011 at 10:38 pm Tony

    It’s very easy to nay-say everything out there that concerns Bigfoot. You say this footage is horribly staged. I say, show me one thing that say’s it’s fake.

    I’m watching it and the guy in the creek is totally paying attention to what he’s doing. The subject in question is too far ahead of the ATV rider to be connected. I hope you’ve watched the “Enhanced” version. In the original version you couldn’t see much more that a subject crossing the creek. In the “enhanced” version you see it step down into the creek and pick up an infant on the other side of the creek.

    I showed this to a nay-sayer friend of mine and all he could come up with was: Why did they have a camera?

    So now your damned for bringing a camera? I’m sure if these same folks didn’t have a camera and came back to town and said they saw a Bigfoot everybody would say “Bullshit”. For you nay-sayers there’s no winning. If you have a video, they say it’s fake. If you say you saw a yeti, they say your lying.

    Here’s a fact for you: If only 1% of the Bigfoot sightings are true then over 1500 sightings are real. Over 150,000 people can’t be wrong.

    When asking people if they’ve ever seen Bigfoot you might also ask them if they’ve seen a baby pigeon.

    I’ll tell you where Bigfoot is.

    Where we’re not.

    With stealth and trail cams everywhere it will not be long before absolute indisputable proof comes to the surface. Although I’m already convinced.

    I only hope it’s me and my camera. Given the opportunity I’ll get great footage of the elusive beast.

    Enjoy your negitivity…

    out


    • on March 24, 2011 at 10:44 pm retrieverman

      You’re just telling me that there are 150,000 people who are either 1. lying, 2. Misunderstood what they saw, 3. Nuts, 4. Victims of hoaxes.

      You know what’s fake about all of this?

      If bigfoot is so real and so hard to find, why is he always just sauntering away?

      Because it’s too hard to run in a gorilla suit.

      Bigfoot is not real. Get over it.

      Please.


      • on March 24, 2011 at 11:12 pm Pai

        The way it walks is enough of a give away.


    • on March 24, 2011 at 10:50 pm retrieverman

      You are a nut.

      I’m sorry.

      Don’t wind up like Rene Dahinden. Don’t throw away your life on something absurd.

      If you had said you’re going to find the thylacine, I would be much more supportive.

      But you’re looking for something that simply cannot exist if we pay attention to the fossil record and to everything else we know about primates.


  3. on March 24, 2011 at 10:53 pm retrieverman

    You people don’t get science.

    It’s not my job to prove 100 percent that it’s a hoax.

    It’s your job to prove that it’s true.

    Here’s my biggest complain: This thing looks horribly staged.

    And bigfoot just walks away.

    Pu-lease. that’s been done before.

    You’d think such a powerful and elusive animal would be a little more concerned about ATV’s.


  4. on February 7, 2012 at 1:51 pm Jason

    I’ve been hunting in this area for years and the only beast I e ever seen was a bear…totally dumb video. I can’t believe the people from animal planet thought this would make good TV.


  5. on February 12, 2012 at 12:10 pm Keith

    Retrieverman – i agree this is likely a staged video, as I have hunted in this area as well as others for over 40 years, and never seen any sign of such a creature. The only problem I have is with your first post above, “BTW this was in SW Virginia…” Would this video have been any more believable if it had been filmed in upstate New York? Seriously, Southwest VA or WV (or any other southern state) has no corner on the redneck market Sir… : )


    • on February 12, 2012 at 12:12 pm retrieverman

      I am from West Virginia. My people were Yankees during the Civil War, so I don’t consider myself a southerner.


  6. on February 12, 2012 at 4:17 pm Tina A

    To deny that there could be a “bigfoot” is to deny that there was a Gigantopithecus. This could very well be a large primate that evolved from this so called extinct species. So, all of you that say that people are crazy or these films or stories are just hoaxes, then you truely are the idiots of the bunch! Animals are found that are thought to have been extinct…so stfu when you don’t know what in the hello you are talking about!


    • on February 12, 2012 at 6:35 pm retrieverman

      No. Bigfoot, if it exists, cannot be Gigantopithecus:

      https://retrieverman.wordpress.com/2012/01/18/why-bigfoot-cannot-be-gigantopithecus/


      • on February 12, 2012 at 6:40 pm Tina A

        So with all the other info out there, you believe that one thing….you really do need to get out of WV and see the world. It sounds as if you are very closed minded and I bet that you voted for Bush/Cheney too! Bet you believed their crap too….why are there no weapons of mass destruction?


        • on February 12, 2012 at 6:47 pm retrieverman

          Um. You are a Grade A Moron.

          1. I demonstrated during the Iraq War. I was at a big protest when Dubya came to town at about the same time that Israel was massacring Lebanon. I’ll never vote for a Republican for a federal office– ever!

          2. You didn’t read my post. My post takes a scientific look at the claims of bigfoot. And the gigantopithecus hypothesis is the least likely of them all. Gigantopithecus was a specialized ape that lived on bamboo. Are there giant pandas in Washington State? There aren’t any, so there won’t be giganto, which was almost certainly not a biped. We have only minimal fossils from that animal, and you cannot use them to make the claim that it was bipedal. If you do, you fundamentally don’t understand paleontology.

          3,. I don’t discount that there may be unknown animals. We’re discovering new ones every day. I am open to possibility that orang pendek exists, though it may be an unusual gibbon species.

          I am well-versed in cryptozoology stuff. A lot of it is nothing more than bull crap, but some of it is worth exploring. Thylacines may still exist. I wouldn’t be entirely surprised if they found one.


          • on February 12, 2012 at 7:02 pm Tina A

            My condolences to your family. So sorry that they have to listen to you. Grade A moron…LOL! That just goes to prove that you really have NO clue as to what you are talking about. Just an ignorant twat! LOL, again so sorry that your family has to put up with you.


            • on February 12, 2012 at 7:06 pm retrieverman

              See, I actually quoted a scientist in my post. I used scientific principles in my post.

              You just want to act like a child.

              BTW, you are in the UK.

              I am in the US!

              There are no things like bigfoot running about. There are things that might be mistaken for bigfoot, but the only apes running about are Homo sapiens sapiens.


            • on February 12, 2012 at 7:10 pm retrieverman

              I actually DO know what I’m talking about. I can read scientific literature!

              But if you wish to argue like Bill O’Reilly, then I suggest you go somewhere else.


              • on February 12, 2012 at 7:20 pm Tina A

                FRO!


                • on February 12, 2012 at 7:29 pm DesertWindHounds

                  I must not be up on the current slang, because last time I checked, calling people hairstyle names was not insulting.


            • on February 12, 2012 at 7:11 pm Miranda

              …did you even read anything he said? If you disagree, you’re supposed to argue against his specific points, not ignore them in favor of generic Ad hominem attacks.

              You get an F in Debating. See me after class.


              • on February 12, 2012 at 7:19 pm Tina A

                Not here to debate things with you….will delete my name from getting anything from your uhhhh website.


                • on February 12, 2012 at 7:24 pm Miranda

                  You should discuss that with retrieverman, not me. In case you haven’t noticed, this is his website, not mine. I couldn’t delete your name from this page if I wanted to.


                  • on February 12, 2012 at 7:25 pm Tina A

                    FRO ignorant TWAT!


                    • on February 12, 2012 at 7:38 pm Miranda

                      What the hell was that for!? I wasn’t insulting you, I wasn’t even disagreeing with you! I was just telling you that this isn’t my website.


                    • on February 12, 2012 at 7:40 pm retrieverman

                      Miranda,

                      I’m sorry you got the bad end of a troll on this post.

                      These things happen.


        • on February 12, 2012 at 7:16 pm DesertWindHounds

          BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


  7. on February 12, 2012 at 7:23 pm Tina A

    NO…I am NOT in the UK. Lived there for three years. But I am back in the fucked up USA. Don’t want any further crap from your site or any of your twats that try to come to your defense.


    • on February 12, 2012 at 7:28 pm retrieverman

      Um.

      Okay, the Bush administration censored science. I am very pro-science, and it should not be censored.

      I insisted in that post that we look at the claim of bigfoot researchers scientifically and skeptically, but because I did that, you compared me to Bush-loving Republican.

      That makes absolutely no sense.

      I agree that the US is totally screwed up, and it has been for a long time.



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