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by Scottie Westfall

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The answer to the ‘ID that breed’ from yesterday

August 10, 2009 by SWestfall3

Bracco Italiano puppy

It was a Bracco Italiano puppy.

You could be forgiven for thinking it was some breed of scent hound.

After all, it grows into a dog like this one:

Adult Bracco Italiano

The Bracco Italiano is a heavy pointer that has developed into an HPR.

There are four breeds of heavy pointer/HPR left: the Bracco Italiano, the Spinone Italiano (which looks a lot like a griffon-coated Bracco), the Burgos Pointer (Old Spanish Pointer), and the Pachon Navarro. These dogs are the oldest extant pointers and most likely developed from St. Hubert-type hounds, which were a cross between a mastiff-type dog and a lighter scent hound.

It’s likely that a few of these heavy hounds gave off pointing behavior. I’ve actually read of bloodhounds (which are known today as St. Hubert hounds) will occasionally point. Montague Stevens’s motley crew of bear hounds included a bloodhound that pointed.

So it’s very possible that heavy hounds are the ancestral strain of the original pointers. Whether their ancestry is in Spain or Italy, I cannot definitely say.

I do know that virtually all pointing breeds in existence today claim ancestry to both the Burgos pointer and the Pachon Navarro, which were made faster through cross-breeding with light scent hounds. (The Pachon Navarro’s most unique trait is its occasional double-nose, which it has passed onto the Catalburun or Turkish pointer and the odd German shorthair.)

The Bracco Italiano developed as two distinct types. One of these was the Lombard pointer, which was darker  in color and heavier in build. The other form was the Piedmontese pointer, which was nearly white and lighter in build.

During the Renaissance, these dogs were very popular among the rising merchant classes. Both the Medici and Gonzaga families kept these dogs, which they used to hunt partridges and other birds.

I should point out here that this breed is virtually unkown on this side of the Atlantic.  That means they are almost impossible to find.

The dogs above are Roano-Marrone, which in my parlance is liver roan.

The dogs also come is Bianco-Arancio (white-orange). All of these dogs are bb’s, and these dogs have brown skin, regardless of  wither they are liver roans or orange and white.

orange and white bracco

So the dog from yesterday wasn’t a French scent hound. It was just an old breed of HPR.

This breed nearly went extinct by the end of the nineteenth century. A few dedicated breeders led by Ferdinando Delor de Ferrabouc were able to standardize the breed and increase its numbers. However, as I said before, this breed is very uncommon in the United States.

If you want one, it will take a lot of work just to find a breeder.

Posted in Uncategorized | Tagged Bracco Italiano, old pointer dog breeds, Old Spanish pointer, pointer | 6 Comments

6 Responses

  1. on August 10, 2009 at 12:48 am Once again, Identify the domestic dog below « Retrieverman’s Weblog

    […] Answer: Bracco Italiano. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Doberman Pinscher HQ Pictures […]


  2. on September 12, 2009 at 6:27 am Ala D'Oro

    Hello Retrieverman!
    How lovely to see my puppy (picture: Maranazano di Ala D’Oro) in your weblog.
    I want you to know that at this moment a group of serious people have started up a Bracco Italiano club in the USA. Hopefuly this will make it more easy to see them in the USA hunting fields!

    Love to follow up your BLOG!
    Tina


    • on September 12, 2009 at 2:06 pm retrieverman

      Your breed has always fascinated me. I got the photo off of wikipedia.

      I’m glad you like the blog!


  3. on October 3, 2009 at 3:40 pm Bridget K.

    Now you gonna get some new readers. Tonight I’ll give your blog address to my friends, who has a bracco.


    • on October 3, 2009 at 3:53 pm retrieverman

      I get a very high amount of traffic from Finland in proportion to that country’s population. I’d like to know what it is. Maybe it’s because the American retriever and gun dog fancy don’t like me.


  4. on September 9, 2010 at 7:13 pm Bracco Italiano pointing « Retrieverman's Weblog

    […] have a post on the Bracco Italiano that you might want to check […]



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