Debunking creationist cryptozoology

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Debunking creationist cryptozoology

February 28, 2013 by retrieverman

The best take down creationist crypto crapola ever!

Source.

One thing you’ll learn:

The origins of the fire-breathing dragon myth.

Another thing:

There actually is a unicorn!

Posted in creationism, cryptozoology | Tagged creationism | 29 Comments

29 Responses

on February 28, 2013 at 7:45 am bearcoatpei

That was brilliant!

The dictionary definition of the word create is “to evolve from one’s own thought or imagination, as a work of art or an invention”. So, if you are a creationist, this means that you…

…yup, that’s just about hit the nail on the head.
- on February 28, 2013 at 2:38 pm daveldman
  
  Actaully, Dictionary.com says:
  cre·ate [kree-eyt] Show IPA verb, cre·at·ed, cre·at·ing, adjective
  verb (used with object)
  1.
  to cause to come into being, as something unique that would not naturally evolve or that is not made by ordinary processes.
  2.
  to evolve from one’s own thought or imagination, as a work of art or an invention.
  3.
  Theater . to perform (a role) for the first time or in the first production of a play.
  4.
  to make by investing with new rank or by designating; constitute; appoint: to create a peer.
  5.
  to be the cause or occasion of; give rise to: The announcement created confusion.
  
  But, even if your definition was “complete”, your attempt an an insult really actually holds true to the belief that we are actually created by God.
  - on March 1, 2013 at 6:11 am bearcoatpei
    
    Or vice versa.
on February 28, 2013 at 11:02 am Shah

My aunt, though neither christian or creationist, is quite gullible to any “revelations” about ancient cultures, including this one. She only relented when I brought up the anatomical mistakes on the dinosaur engravings (I used to be something of a dinosaur enthusiast). On top of that, and which wasn’t covered in this video, the species depicted didn’t even live in Peru.
on February 28, 2013 at 11:20 am massugu

They suffer from a bad case of “epistemophia”–my new word for the month (LOL)
on February 28, 2013 at 2:52 pm daveldman

I am starting to realize that following your blog may be a mistake. You seem to post things that are someone else’s thoughts on things that just don’t hold water.
This guy rambled on for 45 minutes and never once gave any actual evidence that disproves creation, nor did he give proof of evolution. He merely gave a bunch of examples of fraudulent claims made over the years, and a few examples of bad ancient artwork. I would have questioned every single one of those findings, as well. They all look fake and contrived. What he did prove(and seems to hold true) is that evolutionists tend to drive their points home using insults, rather than facts. I am truly sorry that you align yourself with such people. I started following this blog because I thought you were a dog and outdoor enthusiast, but such doesn’t seem to be the case.
I spend a lot of time out away from man-made things, and I will never understand how someone can look at all that is out there and think that it is all just by chance, or happenstance. Nature speaks to creation. The “evidence” is in the details. I just cannot fathom that everything from that smallest creature to the largest living tree, all are the result of an explosion, followed by millions of years of chance.
I will respect your thoughts from here on out, and leave quietly. If you ever choose to take a real look at creation, please contact me. I am not an “expert”, but would love to discuss anything that could be a learning situation.
- on February 28, 2013 at 3:05 pm retrieverman
  
  Oh. I’m sorry, but you’re one of those who didn’t read the Comment Guidelines.
  
  Number 5:
  
  All creationists are considered either liars or horribly misinformed. If you wish to leave creationist comments on this blog, you will be ridiculed. I have no time to indulge your dishonesty or ignorance.
  
  We are very anti-creationist, because it’s not even science. It’s Grade A Bullshit. Every thing AronRa says in that video can be verified.
  
  The only dinosaurs roaming the earth are birds!
- on February 28, 2013 at 3:06 pm retrieverman
  
  There is no rule that you have to follow my blog either. You can leave. I still have plenty of readers, and you throwing a tantrum will not stop me from what I want, okay?
  - on March 1, 2013 at 6:43 am bearcoatpei
    
    He won’t be going anywhere. He only seems to participate in the blog at the mention of creationism and can’t resist the chance to give us all a good ol’ learning situation.
- on February 28, 2013 at 3:45 pm DesertWindHounds
  
  “I started following this blog because I thought you were a dog and outdoor enthusiast, but such doesn’t seem to be the case.”
  
  Entertaining. This is the first time I’ve seen “dog and outdoor enthusiast” indelibly linked with “creationist.”
  - on February 28, 2013 at 3:57 pm retrieverman
    
    If you’re an outdoor enthusiast you must be a republican.
    
    True fact.
    
    If you have a gun obammer wonts it.
    
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    - on February 28, 2013 at 8:08 pm DesertWindHounds
      
      Sorry, I forgot rule #126 of Internet Communication: make as many assumptions about people as possible.
      
      Also, don’t forget rule #2: all opinions are equally valid, but opinions based on tribalism, ego-stroking, just so stories, and feeeeewings are more valid than others.
    - on March 1, 2013 at 3:22 pm cyborgsuzy
      
      I wonder what he thinks about female, hetero/married, atheist, gun-owning, big-game-hunting, liberal feminists like me? Probably can’t think about it too hard, would end up with esplodey brains on keyboard…
- on February 28, 2013 at 4:09 pm cyborgsuzy
  
  That’s so cute. “If you ever choose to take a real look…” LOL
  
  Think he actually watched the whole video?
- on February 28, 2013 at 6:19 pm Shah
  
  God must have been quite a sadist then when he designed the spotted hyena. The females have to give birth through a psuedopenis, which tears when giving birth. This causes the death of 1 out of 5 female spotted hyenas birthing for the first time.
  - on March 1, 2013 at 6:34 am bearcoatpei
    
    You forget that, according to the bible, god is a he and he made women as an afterthought from just one of Adam’s ribs. Hyena ladywillies must have been an honest mistake due to his unexpected weekend workload. “Oh my me! All the animals are bumming each other – HEY, STOP THAT… NO… BAD BEASTIES!” And that’s how females and barbecue spare ribs were created.
    - on March 1, 2013 at 3:10 pm massugu
      
      BCP: You’re not keepin’ up! Not only is God a he, but “he” is also of European extraction (so does that mean that Jesus wasn’t really Jewish), and of mature mien (aka a graybeard–kinda like Sean Connery, or maybe Jeff Bridges?)
      
      Also, as a senior, male human being, I can tell you that if we’re gonna hold an almighty creator responsible for the glitches in creation, It could have done a hell of lot better job on the human back, knees and prostate while It was at it.
      - on March 2, 2013 at 7:21 am bearcoatpei
        
        From the illustrations, I grew up thinking Jesus was Kris Kristoffersen. Who’d a thunk Sean Connery was his dad – revelations indeed!
        
        Count yourself lucky. He made us women bleed for a week every month and when we get too old to do that, we have a few years of spontaneously producing buckets of sweat, growing beards and having our bones turn into cinder toffee. I can’t work out if he’s a sadist or just plain incompetent.
        
        on March 2, 2013 at 10:20 am massugu
        
        Well obviously he would have put more thought and care into the male of the species. ;^)
        
        on March 2, 2013 at 3:20 pm bearcoatpei
        
        And even then he managed to leave a timebomb up your rectums. Something tells me that God’s really not got the hang of this whole creation lark if we’re the best example of his handiwork. Rather than humans being the pinnacle of all creation, I think we’re an example of why he got fired by his superiors before he could do any more damage.
        
        on March 3, 2013 at 10:40 am massugu
        
        Fodder for of “Ancient Aliens” perhaps? ;^)
        
        on March 3, 2013 at 3:07 pm bearcoatpei
        
        Ancient frat boy aliens at that. The whole planet is the cosmic equivalent of toilet papering a tree for them. They only invented grasses so they could come back millions of years into the future and make patterns in it to freak hippies out.
  - on March 1, 2013 at 3:27 pm cyborgsuzy
    
    All mammal reproduction is f’d up from a design standpoint. I mean, fine, make childbirth painful as punishment to women, whatever, that can make sense from strictly an internal-logic standpoint. But, have the birth canal go through a tiny hole in the pelvis makes no sense and is very dangerous, killing mother and baby all the time if one tiny thing goes wrong. Kind of interferes with that whole “go forth and propagate” idea…
    - on March 1, 2013 at 3:42 pm retrieverman
      
      I don’t think it’s that painful for marsupials.
      - on March 2, 2013 at 7:22 am bearcoatpei
        
        God’s a kangaroo?
        
        on March 2, 2013 at 10:21 am massugu
        
        More likely a Wombat.
        
        on March 2, 2013 at 3:25 pm bearcoatpei
        
        In the name of the Wombat, Skippy and the holy Thylacine.
        
        (that’s the bush kangaroo rather than the peanut butter)
on January 17, 2014 at 1:49 pm Bill; Gibbons

Cryptozoology is the study or pursuit of hidden or unverified animals. it should not surprise anyone that creationists are involved in this field as reports of Mokele-mbembes in Equatorial Africa or pterosaurs in Papua New Guinea attract young earth creationists who believe than man and dinosaurs co-existed.

However, regardless of the side you take on this issue, the discovery of any creature that was contemporary with the dinosaurs should not really surprise anyone. According to the evolutionary timeline, The horseshoe crab has been around for 250 million years, the African lungfish has been here for 100 million years, the ceolacanth for 60-70 million years, the Tuatara lizard for 200 million years, and various insects such as bees, mosquitoes and flies for 80 million years or more. Mokele-mbembe, IF it is discovered, and IF it is closely related to an extinct sauropod of some kind, it will become the largest “living fossil” in the world, and a spectacular one at that. Likewise, if anything close to a living pterosaur is ever discovered, it will be treated with the same (brief) media sensationalistic overview. However, science will have the last say on all such discoveries, juast as it does with the hundreds of new insect/mammal/reptile/bird discoveries that are made around the world each year. .

As for all creationists being “liars,” I guess that most of the founding father’s of science weren’t terribly honest people in that case.
- on January 17, 2014 at 7:29 pm retrieverman
  
  I have one case of a creationst telling the truth.
  
  Every study the quote is either an outright lie or a misrepresentation.