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A smooth Irish wolfhound bitch

May 14, 2011 by retrieverman

This bitch, named Cheevra, was featured in Country Life Illustrated (28 December 1901):

Situated right in the centre of the Cheshire hunting country, within easy access of all the meets of four packs of hounds, in the prettiest part of the ” Vale,” is Kidnal House, close to Malpas Station. Here is the home of the far-famed Cheevra, the most prolific and profitable of all Irish wolfhound bitches. It is a fact well known in the doggy kingdom that within the last few years this mother of a race of canine giants, now nine years old, has had seven litters, containing fifty-two pups, all told, of which she has reared forty-six, including two such champions as Sportella and the Marquis of Donegal, both bred by that most excellent judge and owner of Irish wolfhounds, Mrs Arthur Gerard, who rivals her husband in her keenness of appreciation of the characteristics of this grand race of dogs, that owes so much of its present state of perfection to the great and constant care bestowed upon its development by these two enthusiasts, who both have learnt their lesson from the great master of the breed, Captain Graham, to whom is all the glory of having restored, resuscitated, and almost re-created the ancient Irish wolfhound. It is only those who have made the attempt to restore a lost breed, or apparently lost breed, that know what such an attempt means (pg. 850).

There are several other smooth wolfhounds featured in this article, some of which appear to be white with spots.

Everyone knows that these dogs were reconstructed with some Great Dane blood, but they also very strongly resemble the “deer greyhounds” that were fairly common throughout Great Britain and Ireland in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.  Deer greyhounds were large greyhounds that were often crossed with mastiffs. They were used almost exclusively for coursing red deer. The last surviving strain of deer greyhound is the “Highland deer greyhound” or Scottish deerhound.

The original Irish wolfhound essentially died out in the late eighteenth century. Unfortunately, many pseudo-experts will come up with depictions of deer greyhounds from the nineteenth century and will claim that these are Irish wolfhounds.

I’m sorry, folks, but a deer greyhound isn’t an Irish wolfhound, even though it appears to look like one.

The modern Irish wolfhound was recreated by Captain Graham. I don’t want to see another pseudo-historian post another link to a what is likely a deer greyhound and claim that this is evidence that the Irish wolfhound survived the eighteenth century.

There is some evidence that some of the old strain lived on into the nineteenth century, but Graham never used those dogs. He used Scottish deerhound, Great Dane, borzoi, and Tibetan Mastiff (for some reason).

The best account I have read of what happened to the original wolfhound can be found in Mark Derr’s A Dog’s History of America. It turns out that George Washington wanted to import these dogs to Virginia to control the wolf problem that was destroying our nascent sheep industry. He contacted Sir Edward Newenham, a protestant Irish nobleman who favored some level of home rule in Ireland.  The only confirmed dog he could find was a bitch in the north of the Ireland. The ones that Lord Altamont had were Great Dane crosses.

It was widely accepted– even in the nineteenth century– that the Irish wolfhound was a recreation.  It is not the same as the ancient Irish wolf dog. It is also not a deer greyhound.

These smooth-coated dogs disappeared from the Irish wolfhound gene pool. I certainly would have mistaken them for deer greyhounds.

But people need to understand that deer greyhounds were much more ubiquitous in the nineteenth century. If someone has a painting of a supposed wolfhound that exists before Graham started his recreation breeding program, it is more likely a deer greyhound, not a relict population of Irish wolfhound.

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Posted in dog breeds | Tagged deer greyhound, irish wolfhound | 13 Comments

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  1. on May 14, 2011 at 11:12 pm Pai

    I don’t think the ‘Tibetan Mastiff’ used in the original crosses was the dog that is normally called that name, since it was mentioned by at least one author that it didn’t look anything like a typical Tibetan Mastiff.

    Maybe it was a Kyi Apso?


    • on May 14, 2011 at 11:29 pm retrieverman

      That makes more sense.

      But I heard that the “Thibet dog” was used because it was so much larger than the other mastiffs available in Europe at the time.


      • on May 14, 2011 at 11:49 pm Pai

        I suppose it could’ve been just some random huge dog from Tibet that resembled a mastiff-y type.


  2. on May 15, 2011 at 5:08 am bjarne

    There is a photo of this particular dog on the net….but I don´t have that link


  3. on May 15, 2011 at 1:56 pm Jess

    You can really see the Dane in those dog’s faces.


  4. on May 16, 2011 at 12:52 am margot

    *uuuuhhh!* but it sounds so nice to have a “2.000 year old breed” … :-D

    my opinion is that most of the breeds today don’t have to do very much with older breeds. in the 19th and begin of 20th century dogs had to work! their work was much more important than how they look.

    but our show world made it possible that dogs unable to work are breeding dogs. and in this mentality it fits that the breed is “soooooo old” …

    7 litters in 9 years – no one would accept it today …

    thanks for this interesting article, i’ll link it in my blog.


  5. on May 16, 2011 at 9:16 am bjarne

    I got it wrong it was the irish dog Cuchullin that I thought
    was the tibetan mastiff ,but there is a kyi apso in the photos after Cuchullin http://www.irishwolfhounds.org/graham.htm


    • on May 16, 2011 at 9:31 am retrieverman

      Yes. Kyi Apso. That particular dog has appeared in many different books, and I have been in discussion with several people about what this dog was.

      I am skeptical that some of those drawings are of the original Irish wolfhounds. They may be drawings of them– perhaps from people who have never seen them. And many deer greyhounds would look like Irish wolfhounds, as would some Great Danes from that time period.


      • on May 17, 2011 at 10:59 pm Ruth

        Well, according to that article he did use a Tibetan named Wolf, though I must say that Wolf doesn’t look much like the puppy sleeping on my feet.

        Actually a Tibetan Mastiff might not have been such an odd outcross as you think. When you take away the extra fur there’s some obvious “sight hound” type conformation (makes sense when you consider, for example, that these dogs needed all the lung capacity they could get when at altitude) and theres an offshoot breed of the TM in the Himalayas that CLEARLY has some obvious sight hound looks even with the extra fur.


        • on May 18, 2011 at 12:04 pm retrieverman

          There is another reason why he’d use some kind of Tibetan mastiff (Kyi-apso or whatever).

          In the nineteenth century, this breed was an obsession of many fanciers. They would plunk down massive sums of money for a “Thibet dog” of any sort.

          Why?

          It was believed– though it has never been proven– that the Tibetan mastiff type was the dog from whence all other mastiffs came.

          I have seen no evidence to support this claim, and the first dogs with mastiff-type skeletons are 14,000 years old– and were found in European Russia, near the Ukrainian border.


          • on May 18, 2011 at 8:30 pm Ruth

            True! And it wouldn’t be the first time someone added a breed to the mix just for the ‘name’


  6. on May 16, 2011 at 12:41 pm bjarne

    Well maybe the original wolfdog was just big dogs that where good for wolf hunting with alot of diferent phenotypes.


    • on May 16, 2011 at 1:16 pm retrieverman

      That’s the thing.

      It appears that some of these dogs were mastiffs and some where very large greyhounds.

      But if you mention this to some Irish wolfhound folk, um, things get testy.



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