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I can’t have one of these dogs

May 30, 2013 by SWestfall3

(Not one of the anti-Obama catahoula breeder's dogs!)

(Not one of the anti-Obama Catahoula breeder’s dogs!)

I admit there are some dogs I’ve just not qualified to own.

I’m not going to try an ovtcharka of any sort. That’s just way outside my area of expertise.

Ditto on Fila Brasileiros.

I don’t think I would be a good fit for a pet coyote either.

Now, all of those are based upon what I know and what I know I don’t know.

My political views have little to do with it.

Now, the dog world is quite political– about the dogs.

And those politics are often amusing, and if they were ever to stop, I’d run out of material for this blog in very short time!

But I’ve noticed in recent years that the actual human political scene has worked its way into dogs.

Many dog breeders are radical libertarians or paleoconservative. Many dog rescuers are vegan leftists.

I’m actually neither, though I’d be closer to being called a “leftist” than a libertarian.

I left a well-known list on Yahoo! groups because all they did was Tea Party this and Tea Party that and conspiracy theory this and conspiracy theory that.

And no one ever talked about dogs.

But politics aside, most dog people don’t really care who you voted for.

At least I hope not.

It has come to my attention via a reader in the Blog Readers’ Group today that there is one kennel that is denying placing any puppy or adult dog with Obama voters.

This is Oak Hill Catahoulas in Townsend, Georgia. The owner of the kennel is Kyle Duncan.

Judging from what it says on the bottom of his website, he’s not a big fan of Obama. And if you voted for him, you aren’t getting a dog from him!

oak hill catahoulas

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The page says:

If you voted for Obama, or you are a Registered Democrat I will not sell you a dog, You have proven that you can not take care of an animal, there are no food stamps or Obama care for animals!!! Please do not call or Email me, you are a loser!!!

Well, I did vote for Obama, even though even though almost no one in my state did, and I’ve been a registered Democrat as soon as I was old enough to register to vote.

I think this fellow is also operating under the assumption that the only person who would want a Catahoula, which are very good hunting dogs, would be conservative hunter types.

But not all American hunters are conservative, just as not all white Southerners are.

I can see the idea that you only sell to working homes as a tradition that exists in so many breeds, but why cast the net so small that it gets only the conservatives?

We live in a strange country. And at a very strange time.

Even the effing dogs are caught up in the spectacle.

It’s a shame.

A damn shame.

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Posted in Politics, working dogs | Tagged catahoula, Oak Hill Catahoulas | 40 Comments

40 Responses

  1. on May 30, 2013 at 9:22 pm ragingbulldogges

    What in the world is a paleoconservative?


    • on May 30, 2013 at 9:33 pm retrieverman

      Pat Buchanan.


  2. on May 30, 2013 at 10:10 pm Russell Constable

    Tango (my Catahoula leopard dog) would happily play fetch with Obama and I would be perfectly happy to let her Scottie! Then again she is an Aussie dog and cares little for politics! Come feeding times however she does display socialist traits if her bowl is empty and the other animals are a bit slow in eating up :)


    • on May 30, 2013 at 10:12 pm retrieverman

      They are are quite a few progressive people in the US who own this breed. It’s really a sort of heritage breed here.


      • on May 30, 2013 at 10:54 pm kittenz

        Yeah and I dare say quite a few of them are Democrats. Some of whom even voted for President Obama. Hell, a lot of them will probably vote for Ms. Hilary next time (if she runs). And they won’t even have to lie about THAT in order to get along with their neighbors ;-P !


  3. on May 30, 2013 at 11:19 pm Anna

    I DIED laughing when one of my friends posted this. And as a white Southerner named ABNEY, it’s even more ironic. I can’t have one of his dogs even though he has a line that is famous that was developed by a member of my family, because I voted for Obama. I have to wonder how exactly he is going to figure out if his puppy applicants are Democrats…


    • on May 30, 2013 at 11:23 pm retrieverman

      In West Virginia, all you have to do is go up to the courthouse and pay about ten dollars and you can get the list of the all the registered Democrats in the county.

      But that’s a lot of work if you plan to do that large scale.


    • on May 30, 2013 at 11:24 pm retrieverman

      I didn’t know you were any kin to those Abneys, but it is even funnier than I thought!


    • on May 30, 2013 at 11:26 pm retrieverman

      For those who don’t know: http://www.abneycatahoulas.com/


      • on May 30, 2013 at 11:28 pm Anna

        The Louisiana Abneys are distant cousins to the illustrious South Carolina Abneys. But blood is blood! I wonder if my name would trump my voting record if I were to contact Oak Hill?


        • on May 30, 2013 at 11:38 pm retrieverman

          I don’t know, but do you have any need for a cur dog?


          • on May 30, 2013 at 11:53 pm Anna

            Not at this time. Maybe one day when I decide to try my hand at hog hunting. 8-)


        • on May 30, 2013 at 11:40 pm retrieverman

          I find it interesting that this is the only cur breed that people know, and it’s only because it’s the state dog of Louisiana and because it’s got a name that makes people think it hunts leopards.

          I remember trying to explain to people in my seventh grade class that Ol’ Yeller was a cur dog like a Catahoula, and no one knew what I was talking about. (He was a blackmouth or something ancestral to a blackmouth cur).


          • on May 30, 2013 at 11:55 pm Anna

            Around here country folks know Blackmouths & Mountain Curs as well as Plotts & Walkers which are really just hound curs, not purebreds. But Joe Q. Average Dog Lover has never heard of them. They all think Ol’ Yeller was a yellow Lab.


          • on May 31, 2013 at 12:07 pm M.R.S.

            Well, it was a Labrador that played the role of Ol’ Yeller in the movie. So, no surprise that people would assume. The word “cur” to JQPublic is a derogatory term, as is “mutt”.


            • on May 31, 2013 at 1:58 pm kittenz

              I’ve read of “Spike”, the dog who starred as Old Yeller in the Disney film, described as being a Black-Mouth Cur (obviously he wasn’t), a Chinook (wrong again), a Labrador, and a mixed breed. According to the commentary on the “Old Yeller” DVD, Spike was actually a Lab/Mastiff mix. But I don’t know if his parentage was known or just guessed; story has it that Frank Weatherwax paid three dollars for him at a Van Nuys, CA dog pound & was so impressed by his huge size and his intelligence that he made Spike his personal pet.

              Spike also had roles in other films including “A Dog of Flanders”.

              I’ve often wondered what breeds actually went into his mix. At a reputed 170 lbs, Lab x Mastiff would explain the size, but seems to me that a direct Lab x Mastiff cross would not have Spike’s haywire ears but would have true drop ears instead. Maybe more than two breeds were involved & one or more of them had erect ears. Guess we’ll never know.


              • on May 31, 2013 at 9:56 pm M.R.S.

                No doubt you’re right. Doesn’t sound like a purebred Labrador. Although some of the ones I’ve seen lately are approaching that size! Such as the 27″ tall, 110 pound 10 month old younster i saw not long ago. . .


          • on June 1, 2013 at 3:01 pm Kali

            Why do they have the leopard in their name?


            • on June 1, 2013 at 6:02 pm Anna

              Because there are so many merle dogs in the breed. Spots. And because it makes them sound cool. Which they are. 8-)


            • on June 1, 2013 at 6:15 pm ellamenno

              I’m guessing because they are commonly merled, making them mostly spotted. Spotted horses (or, at least one gene causing spots) are called leopard, too.


    • on May 31, 2013 at 1:02 am ragingbulldogges

      There’s a guy around here (San Francisco) who has a CLD named Finn. He told me he was from LA, and that he went all the way back there to get Finn. Wonder if it’s one of your pups?


      • on May 31, 2013 at 1:28 am Anna

        There’s not mine specifically, it’s just that I’m a distant cousin to Don Abney. 8-)


        • on May 31, 2013 at 3:01 am ragingbulldogges

          Oh, I see :)


  4. on May 31, 2013 at 10:12 am Adam

    Taking this a different way.

    Is it really possible that breeders have full control over their puppies futures?

    I mean I have seen breeders with contracts that state things that

    A, there is no way you could know about.

    B, put people off.

    Surely over tight contracts ect result in people heading to the nearest back yard breeder who just takes the money!

    Adam


  5. on May 31, 2013 at 5:30 pm Raziar

    There is a small handful of CLD’s here in the ok. Haven’t met any of them though. For me the CLD is in a different way like the Saarloos Wolfhond, both breeds I like the look of, but probably not the right sort of home for.
    Could see myself with an Ovtcharka, but that’s probably because I already have another one of the lgd breed/types.


  6. on May 31, 2013 at 6:40 pm chervilmeadow

    Why all this labelling of people. Isn’t who you vote for strictly your private concern and a somewhat irrelevant question for anyone to ask in the context of buying a little puppy dog in a liberal democracy. You jest, of course.


  7. on May 31, 2013 at 9:23 pm massugu

    Shades of Nazism…in its heyday, Nazi Germany forbade breeding “Aryan” dogs to “Jewish” dogs. Crazy stuff!!


  8. on May 31, 2013 at 11:17 pm Orge Magi

    Why would you not be a good fit for a pet coyote?


    • on June 1, 2013 at 12:18 am Dave

      They tend to be shy and quick to bite.


      • on June 1, 2013 at 12:16 pm kittenz

        I had a coydog. Smooth collie mix x coyote. He was extremely intelligent, but he, also, was shy and quick to bite. Especially kids and especially if they were running; I had to keep a close eye on him when kids were running around. He only ever actually bit one person (a child who crawled under my desk at the vet clinic where I worked), and he only bruised, did not break skin, but that was a warning to me. He didn’t bark much & when he did it was in short yips, although he “woo-wooed” sort of like a husky does, and seemed sometimes to be trying to “speak human”. :-D. I have fond memories of him but I would not want another coydog.


  9. on June 1, 2013 at 5:55 am Jana

    Is that one of those “blue dog” democrats I keep hearing so much about?


  10. on June 1, 2013 at 6:14 am bearcoatpei

    Why can I faintly but distictly hear someone playing duelling banjos. Sadly, there is no law that bans gradiose dicks from breeding dogs, or breeding full stop.


    • on June 1, 2013 at 11:37 am kittenz

      LOL! Ain’t that the truth!

      I recently joined a group on facebook that styles itself a group for “all dog breeders” & espousing “all opinions”. I don’t breed dogs anymore, haven’t for years, but I joined it so I could read the posts about fat Labradors & the show breeders’ defense of them. Haha I quickly became embroiled in several “verbal altercations” with some people who are strict “AKC Conformists” (well, I suppose if one is a narrowly-focused breeder of conformation show dogs, they can legitimately be called a Conformist ;-D ).

      SHEESH! And I thought that Tea Party-ers were narrow-minded !


      • on June 1, 2013 at 5:59 pm Anna

        But wasn’t it HILARIOUS? At least I had to laugh…to keep from banging my face into a wall. Thanks for joining in the fray!


        • on June 2, 2013 at 1:27 am kittenz

          Yes it was, Anna! :-D . Thanks for turning me on to that page – I haven’t laughed so much (or banged my head so much) in a long time!


  11. on January 31, 2014 at 8:07 pm Slim Light

    Catahoulas were registered with ARF (Animal Research Foundation), long before NALC. Check out Mr. Tom Stodghill


    • on January 31, 2014 at 8:43 pm retrieverman

      His organization and scholarship saved and standardized a lot of landrace working dogs that are endemic to the United States, including this one.


  12. on May 10, 2014 at 5:48 am Brenda Van de Kamp

    Hey. that’s my dog Blue Bizarre. He is born and raised in Holland and has no interest in any political business (neither do I).


    • on May 10, 2014 at 7:06 am retrieverman

      I didn’t know they were even found outside of the USA or Canada.

      Those are our ol’ cur dogs, which even most Americans don’t think are actually breeds.


      • on May 10, 2014 at 7:27 am Alex

        There’s a handful in the uk.



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